Logical Reasoning

PT149 · S1 · Q7 Rita: No matter how you look at them

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Rita: No matter how you look at them, your survey results are misleading.

Rita's 1st Claim

No matter how you look at your survey results, they are misleading. Does Hiro argue that there is a non-misleading way to look at the survey results?

Yes! Hiro says that .

So we have potentially found the correct answer here, with this first claim.

Rita's 2nd Claim

People generally lie on surveys of this type. Does Hiro argue that people don't generally lie on surveys of this type?

No, he seems to agree with this claim. He says, .

Rita's 3rd Claim

The numbers you collected are serious underestimates. Does Hiro argue that his numbers aren't serious underestimates?

No, he seems to agree because he says, .

Evaluate / Goal

If we hadn't found an explicit claim (Rita's 1st) that Hiro was disagreeing with, then we wuld start to fish around for things that Rita was assuming that maybe Hiro disagreed with, but since we already have an explicit contender, we can head to the answers.

We're looking for whether or not there's a way to look at these survey results that is not misleading.

Or, to put that more in Hiro's language, whether or not the relative rates the underestimated numbers represent still present a fairly accurate picture.

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Rita and Hiro disagree over whether

  1. Correct

    the survey results are misleading

    Why this is right

    Yes, this looks like Rita's first claim, which was our prediction. Rita will agree with this, since she "no matter how you look at them (regardless of how they are interpreted), your survey results are misleading." Hiro will disagree with this. Even though the sample is underestimating the raw numbers, the relative rates can be interpreted in a non-misleading way (probably close to being accurate).

    Skill tested: Agree/Disagree · how this choice captures the argument's function is the move to repeat next time.

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  2. people tend to lie on

    Both Agree

    As we assessed, Hiro and Rita agree about this claim. Rita: people generally lie on such surveys Hiro: I have no doubt that people lie on surveys of this type

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  3. a different type of measure

    Out of Scope: different measure

    We can't support what either one of these people would say about different types of measures. The fact that Rita thinks that this method is misleading doesn't commit her to thinking that some other way therefore is not misleading. I might tell you that your plan to get to Saturn is not viable, while simultaneously believing "there is no viable plan to get to Saturn". And of course we have no idea what Hiro's comparative assessment would be when it comes to this survey vs. other measures.

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  4. the raw numbers collected are

    Both Agree

    As we assessed, Hiro and Rita agree about this claim. Rita: the numbers you collected are serious underestimates. Hiro: the raw numbers surely underestimate

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  5. the number of people surveyed

    Out of Scope

    Out of Scope: the survey's purpose Out of Scope: number surveyed We never talked about what the survey's purpose was. The two people are discussing whether the survey has any non-misleading takeaways, but even if there is a credible takeaway, that doesn't mean it's related to the original purpose of the survey. In science (even data-collecting science), often there are important discoveries that are gleaned from data that is totally tangential to the original purpose of the data gathering. Furthermore, Rita's concern was not that an insufficient number of people were surveyed. It was that people (whatever number of respondents) don't supply truthful answers.

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